Catalyst for Payment Reform June 23, 2025
In this episode of Listening In (With Permission), Ryan Olmstead sits down with Mike Hanlon, founder and CEO of Abett, to unpack some of the boldest ideas in health benefits management—and why they might not be so radical after all.
Hanlon, whose company builds automation tools for large employer plan sponsors, offers a candid look at why traditional approaches to benefits data and cost management have failed to move the needle, and what it will take to finally deliver better outcomes at lower costs. From real-time data to market-based carve-outs, Hanlon shares practical insights and hard-won lessons for employers ready to challenge the status quo.
Key Insights
Why “data tools” need a reboot:
Hanlon argues that the old model of data...
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